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Youd need to expect to have mana open often enough to find uses for a two-mana Stifle and youd want to have creatures that were worth spending three mana to copy, but not so powerful that youre winning the game if they stick around anyway
This shouldn't be such a big problem, though, as Grimlock is definitely best as a commander, where he can be seen by all at any time
However, Stoke is worth using if you want to Evolve it later
In the Orzhov build Im running Informant and Nadaar to give that little bit of extra selection (admittedly these pale relative to Bloodtithe and Fable, which is a key thing holding Orzhov back)
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